Hey, I just noticed something! There is an “element” on the right side of your post; if you click it, the text is expanded to look just like the script that you actually wrote! YES: that displays it correctly! 1 point for me today I guess! 
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I know, but that is only transient. 
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I believe that the meatgrinder is from letting the Discourse logic handling “raw” URL.
The “auto-summary” process is “dumb”.
Or did you use the “Quote whole post” option available under the “⊕” drop-down?
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No, I just pasted the link, that’s all. It’s the only thing in the post.
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MX with KDE is my daily driver. It’s solid Debian 13 plus a polished GUI out of the box, nice themes and customizability.
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I have MX Linux in my collection and I have tried it with KDE Plasma, but as I believe I’ve shared, I don’t really have any specific need for either a desktop environment or KDE Plasma, and while I do have a MX Linux setup, it’s actually a lighter distribution that shares some tools with MX Linux that I commonly use - antiX ,the “lean and mean” efficient machine!
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It’s great that MX is a big tent that accommodates a wide range of use cases.
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Functionally, LMDE is virtually identical to mint. It isn’t any more difficult to use and the plus point (for me) is that it doesn’t contain any Ubuntu software.
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I agree. If you are going to use Minty software LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition) is the one to choose, at least for Debian enthusiasts like me!
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I agree, but unless Clem would release it in a MATE desktop I won’t be using it.
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Is there anything particular in the themes or other aspects that would be a problem if you manually installed MATE in case it’s not automatically provided?
I’ve never let the absence of specific software stop me from installing what I want, but it’s been long enough since I’ve used LMDE that I don’t know if the repositories are forgiving when you install specific packages. I remember one of the *buntu versions would install or remove an entire group of packages because their package groups practically installed an entire configuration with 1-3 package groups! Hopefully that’s not the way that LMDE works.
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Why go through the trouble? I have used Debian MATE before. I am not that adept, I would struggle with setting up the default apps to MATE, like terminal and text editor.
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No struggle at all for this oldie; I can build up a system practically from scratch as long as I have a decent package manager or build tools available.
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I’ve been back and forth on that issue. I think the Ubuntu backing is a two-edged sword: While there are certainly directions Ubuntu has gone of which I am not a fan, that their software has a broader installation base provides value, I think, in that the software gets broader testing.
I originally went with LM (2019), tried LMDE later, and there were just pieces (at that time) that didn’t seem to fit as well. These days, there may not be enough of a difference. And, given all my servers are now Debian, if I was making that decision today, I would likely just go with LMDE and discard the Ubuntu baggage.
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I installed Debian 13 KDE, which I removed after a few months because I got tired of fixing small bugs. Then I tried Soplos, based on Debian Testing (https://soplos.org/). I liked it, but I removed it because it crashed when I tried to change SDDM. I currently have Valtux installed, based on Debian 13. It also has a few small bugs, but nothing serious. It’s graphically beautiful. Some might say the software is excessive, but that’s not a problem for me. (MK InfoLibre — Installation Linux en Valais). Ubuntu 26.04 also on duty
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Did you use Soplos with KDE Plasma as well? Just trying to think whether the bugs came from Plasma or from Debian… From my experience, Plasma definitely was a bit buggy 
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Hopefully there are few users of Debian 11 here
The Debian Long Term Support (LTS) Team hereby announces that Debian 11 “bullseye” support has reached its end-of-life today, 31 August 2026, five years after its initial release on 14 August 2021.
Starting in September, Debian will not provide further security updates for Debian 11. A subset of “bullseye” packages will be supported by external parties. Detailed information can be found at Extended LTS [1].
( I had some old 32-bit x86 hardware that performed best with that release 
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Yes, Soplos with KDE but I don’t remember if I encountered any bugs, I remember it crashed when changing SDDM
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Yeah, NO REASON for using Bullseye any more. In fact, Bookworm has some time left, but it’s been replaced by Trixie and Forkie is well into the development cycle.
The only reason I can think of for anyone to hang onto something based on Bullseye is if their system is SO OLD that it isn’t supported at all by anything newer. In that case I urge NOT using that old system for anything financially related or anything that exposes your personally identifiable information - name address, location, or online accounts. Unfortunately I’d say using it as a jukebox is about all that it might still be useful for; I’d use some removable media in that case and get in and out promptly! Bullseye was a very good release; it’s just well past it’s time.
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Those devices all [can] run 12/bookworm, and they’re not used for anything important; eg. one is a setup on a treadmill and used to listen to podcasts as I walk etc; bookworm does that perfectly, but the older software (esp. kernel modules) on 11/bullseye meant streamed videos looked better (out of the box comparison), thus why I’d avoided earlier upgrade.
My usage isn’t as a jukebox; but awfully close in that example case.
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