Fedora-KDE-43 review

DT has many videos on tiling window managers, but I was able to find the exact video.

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The boss himself. :penguin: That’s it. Thanks!

To DT’s and @shybry747 point, I should probably update this article and change the title to better suit the workspace management focus more than tiling; which is more like a bonus feature, rather than the main draw:

Something like:
Linux: We Need Workspace-Centric Desktop Environments, Not Just Tiling

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Not that I found but I didn’t explore it much for tiling or anything like that.

I guess the reason I haven’t gotten into Tiling Window Managers is that I haven’t had multiple displays in quite a while. The last time I had multiple monitor displays I was using Windows on a laptop with an extra display. The extra display was much larger, so I put most of the programs I was actively running there and left the laptop display mainly for controlling the system, running PowerShell or to invoke programs. Once I was active running, I’d typically do about 90-95% of the work on that larger monitor.

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I think a single monitor is one of the main reasons to use a tiling window managers, especially if it’s a large display. That’s my setup now, after years of using multiple monitors:

If you spend a lot of time in Excel or other text-heavy or coding apps, two monitors can make more sense. But in my case, about 95% of the time I only use one app at a time. For me, fast workspace switching is the real benefit of a tiling WM, with tiling itself being a bonus for the few times I want two or three apps on one screen/closer together/side-by-side.

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You make a good point. It’s not necessary to have multiple monitors to make good advantage of a tiling manager, but it does help to set up a nice configuration, regardless of what you’re using.

I have nothing at all against tiling managers, but I’ve not really used them very often. The reason is manyfold for me. One is that I don’t have a large screen, another is that I do not tend to run very many concurrent applications, so there is not much switching between apps, workspaces, and screens. I suppose I could get into it, but the simple fact for me is that I’m more into testing and reading than I am exploring the many useful things - like tiling managers - that I’ve missed. I am definitely NOT against them, and if I were redoing something, it might be a technology I could really appreciate it. As it stands, I’ll enjoy reading about it more rather than actually actively using it.

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So I hadn’t tried either of those(I just finished testing them) and Neon is faster, Manjaro was about the same speed as Fedora KDE.

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@Brian_Masinick has a good point. If you are running two or three apps, a tiling window manager maybe too much.

For my little restaurant, we run one browser app on that computer, the restaurant software, so I use plain ole Ubuntu, and just bring up the browser. And plus, I didn’t want to confuse the girls too much with key presses in case anything went wrong. They are accustomed to good ole point and click.

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Nice feedback and viewpoints. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

For me it comes down to, fast workspace switching vs. tiling: If I could only keep one of these features it would be the workspace switching. Hands down! As mentioned, I hardly using tiling. Which is probably why I ended up leaving i3wm to instead now use Gnome with fast keyboard centric workspace switching.

So really the focus is not on tiling but rather workspace management is the killer feature that has attracted a lot of us to tiling WMs which focus more on that than DEs:

Other than Gnome, which makes it easy to setup fast workspace switching shortcuts within a few mins of first install, it would be nice to also see other full DEs and not just WMs focus on seamless multi-workspace managment.

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I would, in principle, be interested in tiling managers. Alas, each day has so many hours in which to do the routine things, the crucial things, the curiosity things and everything else. That’s perhaps the single most practical reason why I haven’t added full time use of tiling managers to my every day workflow.

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Which do you use more, the tiling or the workspace switching? or equally? For me, I hardly use tiling; but I use the workspace switching constantly throughout the day.

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" more desktop environments with built-in tiling features". Now if these were actually available, I think that would be helpful to actually utilize some tiling features too.

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I would say workspace switching is 80%. Tiling is 20% or maybe even less. The main use for tiling is for multiple terminals, and usually no more than 3. When I have several browsers open, I go for the tab feature.

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Yes, that was the original article where I was guilty of the very same thing @shybry747 mentioned…

The full quote is actually:

The same quoted article goes on to say:

That conversation opened my eyes to a key insight: the real attraction of tiling window managers isn’t tiling itself but instead the keyboard-driven workspace management.

In which, @shybry747 pointed us to this enlightening YouTube video by DT:

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