So Docker doesn’t play well with Debian testing, So I tried Podman. I can see the attraction, but I don’t have a use for it . There’s just not a program I’d need to put into a container at the moment. I’d try using it to make a container for an OS but I wasn’t able to figure that one out (I want to make my own not use an existing one). Maybe it was a short between the keyboard and the operator or a ID10.t error. From What I can tell Podman and Docker are interchangeable (what runs on Docker runs on PodMan, just use the Docker docs & goodies list) Podman does have it’s own list of Goodies but alot of them just send you to the Docker installer. So @AnthonyRKing the experience is what you make of it, but it was the same to me.